Mini-Microsoft Cutting Room Floor: Comment Stream - "Spitfire Backfire, Live Labs, and Not My 1,400"

Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Comment Stream - "Spitfire Backfire, Live Labs, and Not My 1,400"

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117 Comments:

I'm going to be the first to have sex at the Spitfire!

By Anonymous, at April 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Too late ;)

By Anonymous, at April 15, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Well, we knew someone got screwed at Spitfire...now we know.

By Anonymous, at April 15, 2009 at 9:29 PM
We'll just have to book a meeting every day called "Mini Microsoft" that runs from 3pm to closing.

By Anonymous, at April 15, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Who shut it down in the first place?

Kevin Turner? Some Mormon cabals?

By Anonymous, at April 15, 2009 at 9:45 PM
> I'm going to be the first to have sex at the Spitfire!

Sorry, the men's bathroom has cameras that limit usage to a single MOSS in each stall (but if you want to tap your foot maybe your buddy can stick his face under the separating wall...)

By Anonymous, at April 15, 2009 at 9:57 PM
I predict the bar becomes a favorite "cruising" location on the eastside. Most common visitors include former Neighbors patrons and Office team program managers

By Anonymous, at April 15, 2009 at 9:59 PM
So the implication is that Microsoft thought twice about opening a bar - and specifically about serving liquor - on their new 'campus'?

Is the point that there will be photos taken of the employed boozing it up while the axe flies and others find themselves out-of-work/in-financial-distress/make-up-your-own-negative-description, and it's a bad public image ??

If so, boy, someone should swat the PR people. This is the least of their problems.

By Anonymous, at April 15, 2009 at 10:41 PM
"Is the point that there will be photos taken of the employed boozing it up while the axe flies and others find themselves out-of-work/in-financial-distress/make-up-your-own-negative-description, and it's a bad public image ??"No, it was more likely the result of a Mormon-driven campaign to keep the demon liquor at bay.

By Anonymous, at April 15, 2009 at 10:52 PM
> No, it was more likely the result of a Mormon-driven campaign to keep the demon liquor at bay.

Yep, more holier than thou types at MSFT than you can shake a stick at.

But I think the real driving force is pure productivity (i.e. I think you are giving the powers that be at MSFT too much credit)

Most managers that have been there longer that 15 years (like most of the level 66+) are completely focused on how RICH the company can make THEM. If having a bar on campus and turning a percentage of the employees into alcoholics was part of achieving that goal then there would be 10 bars on campus.

By Anonymous, at April 15, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Drinks on the House!

By Anonymous, at April 15, 2009 at 11:38 PM
honestly, who cares about whether or not they serve booze? If i want a drink, I'll just leave at 4:30 and go to McCormick's for happy hour

What did you think I pay $2 a shirt for MyMicrosoft dry cleaning when I can leave and take it somewhere that'll do it for $1?

By Anonymous, at April 15, 2009 at 11:41 PM
We've become IBM
Take solace that in 5-10 years, MiniGOOG will be in full swing and all them Googlers will lament about the good ol days and whisper

"god, we've become Microsoft"

By Anonymous, at April 15, 2009 at 11:42 PM
heh, goog's already become microsoft.

I actually feared from the start that the bar would be a special events only kind of thing. It wasn't until the Spitfire reports that I thought it might be an actual bar. No worries though, if it looks anything like the new museum / company store it won't be someplace comfortable, inviting, or making you want to spend any time there in the first place. And +1 to the numbers of holy rollers at msft.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 12:23 AM
"We've become IBM"

Take solace that in 5-10 years, MiniGOOG will be in full swing and all them Googlers will lament about the good ol days and whisper

No, we became IBM a decade ago. We've recently become Boeing, the only things we're missing are unions, punch clocks and a dress code. Give it a few more years.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 12:49 AM
Mormons suck.

Here's an idea: if you don't want to drink on campus (or at all)...then don't.

But just because you don't like it don't screw with my choice to do so if I want.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 1:30 PM
Change the name to the Shithire and plaster Ballmer's greasy mug on it.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 1:53 PM
"Mormons suck."No moreso than Fundies and Muslims.

They're all a bunch of fucked-up whackjobs. I'm fine with someone's magical super-being telling them they can't drink or fuck the same sex or listen to music or eat unclean animals or show their hair or shave their beard or whatever, but keep that crazy-ass shit confined to your own life experience plz.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Well, I don't see anything wrong with the Mormon way of the life.

It's healthy and you live for a long time and are always prepared for the worst disasters.

But they should not impose.

Anyway, I don't think there are any Mormon CVP or SVP.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 3:13 PM
"Well, I don't see anything wrong with the Mormon way of the life.

It's healthy and you live for a long time and are always prepared for the worst disasters."

They're also bigoted, discriminatory and cultish and they wear magic underwear.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 3:19 PM
"Well, I don't see anything wrong with the Mormon way of the life.

It's healthy and you live for a long time and are always prepared for the worst disasters."

They're also bigoted, discriminatory and cultish and they wear magic underwear.WARNING: You're being taunted by the troll from the previous CRF. His last game was 'RACISM!!'; now, he's moving on to attempting to get people attacking each other on the level of religion. (Not very original, but at least he's moved off of labeling everything - down to the weather - as racist.)

DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM
That's true, and if he's going to start poking fun at religious insanity, he's certainly got a lot of targets within the US.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 3:47 PM
No one can pick on my religion...I'm a Jedi.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 5:56 PM
"DO NOT FEED THE TROLL."

EVERYONE HERE IS A TROLL, you dumb fuck.

Feed me... c'mon. You can handle it.

And puh-lease, like it's any work at all to fuck with religion. LOL.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 6:45 PM
OM NOM NOM!!

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 6:58 PM
No one can pick on my religion...I'm a Jedi.(Relative) WIN!!

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By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 7:36 PM
No one can pick on my religion...I'm a Jedi..

Hey! .. that actually would be a cool futuristic theme to have for Spitfire.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 8:46 PM
I don't know why people are so down on Indian engineers at Microsoft. I've seen a lot of caucasian engineers from the US at Microsoft get replaced by engineers from India on Redmond campus and I think the company is better off. They are smarter, more motivated, more even tempered and frankly write much better software.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 9:02 PM
"I don't know why people are so down on Indian engineers at Microsoft. I've seen a lot of caucasian engineers from the US at Microsoft get replaced by engineers from India on Redmond campus and I think the company is better off. They are smarter, more motivated, more even tempered and frankly write much better software."

They're also not as white.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 9:09 PM
LOL... Sure thing, troll.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 9:12 PM
"LOL... Sure thing, troll."

Hey pot, it's me -- kettle!

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 9:40 PM
and then erect a fence around campus to keep all the brown people in their proper place: wage-slaving away for the man!

or chains. chains would work too.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 9:48 PM
I have no opinion on this.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 9:55 PM
I'm going to punch you all in the throat.

HA! Take that, scoundrels!

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM
and then erect a fence around campus to keep all the brown people in their proper place: wage-slaving away for the man!

or chains. chains would work too..

No .. wouldn't work. We are very ingenious. We will show you a caucasian friend's borrowed ID when you come card us while taking our order!

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM
@2:45 PM

My my your hateful, even more so than some religious zealots I've seen. You might want to check that before it leads you to an ass kicking. Geeks can't win fights.

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 10:39 PM
For the Love of God - please stop this silly religious and racial bashing. Jedi's are the One Truth.Now for something completely related to the thread....An on campus bar is a good thing and long overdue. It is a social meeting place for Microsofties to meet and hang out. It gets us back to a college campus feel. Remember those days? We were young and idealistic and ready to change the world. Instead, we've become increasingly institutionalized and demoralized by inept leaders and growing bureaucracy.

God Damn I need a drink just thinking of this.

Having an on campus bar will not turn us into a bunch of alcoholics. If I wanted a beer I would just grab one from my refrigeration in my office!

But I don't during normal office hours because I'm a professional. Please Microsoft, treat us lowly engineers as such!

By Anonymous, at April 16, 2009 at 11:13 PM
No one can pick on my religion...I'm a Jedi.Yes, the only thing able to crush the Jedis was the evil Empire... Oh, I'm so sorry...

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 3:08 AM
I'm going to be the first to have sex at the Spitfire!Sex is permitted at Spitfire in the afternoons and evenings, after 3 p.m., but only during scheduled group events.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 8:02 AM
My my your hateful, even more so than some religious zealots I've seen.
That would be, "My my you're hateful,..."
English must not be your native language? Go figure.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 8:02 AM
Sex is permitted at Spitfire in the afternoons and evenings, after 3 p.m., but only during scheduled group events.
And only if you're wearing magic underwear and are engaging in it solely for the purpose of increasing the ranks of compliant Micro-serfs.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 8:05 AM
Sex is permitted at Spitfire in the afternoons and evenings, after 3 p.m., but only during scheduled group events.
Furthermore, a management chain must be present during the proceedings.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 8:14 AM
Furthermore, a management chain must be present during the proceedings.
Update from HR - ONLY management chains may be present at the proceedings.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 8:21 AM
punch clocksSpeak for your own team. On my team core hours are mandatory and they did check up on people.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM
EVERYONE HERE IS A TROLL, you dumb fuck.In a subtle way, our pet troll is being honest. Half of the posts arguing in every direction are likely written by the same person.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 11:26 AM
"In a subtle way, our pet troll is being honest. Half of the posts arguing in every direction are likely written by the same person."

Why are you continuing to feed the troll? A discussion about the troll is not helping refocus conversation on actual issues.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 12:09 PM
yes, the issues! like who would win in a fight between a jedi and a ninja?

A ninja is pretty much like an organic version of jedi anyway. They just listen to Nature instead of The Force. They could dodge any force attacks until they got close enough to snap the neck. I say ninja - all the way.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 2:58 PM
i am a troll :) feed me.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 3:13 PM
the trolls are the only reason to read this. :P

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 4:34 PM
I come for the troll party, I stay for the neck-punches.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 4:46 PM
actually I'd pay to see a spitfire management chain, with guess who at the front?

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Speaking of after-drink works, are there any places near main campus worth stopping by for a drink after work, without having to head in to Bellevue? And Yes, I know Redmond and Bellevue are light years away from Pioneer Square and Belltown (boy, do I know), but if you HAD to pick a regular place near campus where everybody knows your name...are there any?

And has anyone checked out the newly opened Black Raven Brewing Co. -- I'm told it's near the golf course on Willows RD, but haven't made the trek out there yet.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Does this mean we have infrastructure to prove/disprove The Ballmer Peak?

http://xkcd.com/323/

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 6:36 PM
If Black Raven is the place I'm thinking of, it's "near" Willows.

Best places for after work drinks: The Outfield, the Toolbox (or tool shed or whatever)

I'm not even kidding, that's how sad the area is for the longest time.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 7:05 PM
I don't know why people are so down on Indian engineers at Microsoft. I've seen a lot of caucasian engineers from the US at Microsoft get replaced by engineers from India on Redmond campus and I think the company is better off. They are smarter, more motivated, more even tempered and frankly write much better software.Oh really? I've fired an indian for performance reasons.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Best places for after work drinks: The Outfield, the Toolbox ...I'm not even kidding, that's how sad the area is for the longest time.And you must or need to drink after work because ....?? Come to think, your life must be so sad indeed, as you point out.

By Anonymous, at April 17, 2009 at 11:41 PM
And you must or need to drink after work because ....?? Come to think, your life must be so sad indeed, as you point out.Lame.

I'm the one who asked if there are places near main campus, and I say that doesn't make the poster's life "sad indeed."

On the contrary, when I've worked at places that have some fine pubs just a short walk away from the office, I always looked forward to going for a drink after work with my colleagues every now and then.

That's because, despite what you may have experienced, this led to things like stronger working relationships, discussions that resulted in some winning solutions to work-related issues that we just couldn't come up with around a conference table, and some great lasting friendships. Even one marriage I know of, believe it or not.

It's something that I consider a normal (and positive) part of work life, but it seems to be missing from my Microsoft experience so far. Team-sponsored beers in the building cafeteria, or a six-pack from the refrigerator which that well-intentioned bloke at the end of the hall keeps in his office, or having to load into cars and head to downtown Bellevue or RTC, they're all OK, but just not the same.

And this is =exactly= why I had high hopes for the Spitfire pub (which unfortunately will turn out to be just a less accessible substitute for team-sponsored events in the building cafeteria).

So, person who thinks that going out for a drink after work is "sad"...what cool thing do you do with colleagues after work every now and then that you'd like to recommend to us instead?

If your answer amounts to, "I wouldn't want to do *anything* with those @^#*%$#%s," then that's what I'd call "sad."

By Anonymous, at April 18, 2009 at 7:02 AM
heard of a lot of layoffs coming soon .... to msft. Watch your back, its sad for people outside microsoft, since some sucker directors and sr directors are joining ranks of expedia, ebay , amazon etc and they have already started to spread their skunky smell out there .. i am in one such team in one of the above companies .. with a new manager from msft .. i hate msft for firing people, not that they are fired, for the fact that they are findind other companies to kill. please please rehire them ... and do some good for the world , please ...

By Anonymous, at April 18, 2009 at 8:19 AM
Oh really? I've fired an indian for performance reasons.A good start.

By Anonymous, at April 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM
a good pub near campus - Three Lions in downtown Redmond.

By Anonymous, at April 18, 2009 at 10:46 AM
"Watch your back, its sad for people outside microsoft, since some sucker directors and sr directors are joining ranks of expedia, ebay , amazon etc and they have already started to spread their skunky smell out there .."

LOL! Expedia has always been a management cesspool and Amazon isn't far behind. I don't know about Ebay, but I'm sure they have their fair share of douches.

Microsoft doesn't have a corner on the market for retarded management.

By Anonymous, at April 18, 2009 at 11:49 AM
"And you must or need to drink after work because ....?? Come to think, your life must be so sad indeed, as you point out."MORMON.

By Anonymous, at April 18, 2009 at 11:50 AM
yea, I want the happy life that includes reading MiniMSFT-CRF at midnight on a Friday, yeahhh...

By Anonymous, at April 18, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Amazon is atrocious. Look at their turnover - even in this economy!

By Anonymous, at April 18, 2009 at 11:57 AM
i graduated from troll university ..

By Anonymous, at April 18, 2009 at 3:49 PM
I figured it would be the SwallowFire and not the SpitFire with Ballmer at the helm.

I guess only BillG can answer that one.

By Anonymous, at April 18, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Bars at corporations is a great idea - 2 hours of soccer followed by 2 hours of beers.

By Anonymous, at April 19, 2009 at 1:51 AM
I'd love to know how much money we spent on Microsoft Commons in total.

By Anonymous, at April 19, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Why is no one discussing "exploding man" from building 4?
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By Anonymous, at April 19, 2009 at 8:15 PM
because bob S got bent over the exploding man.

By Anonymous, at April 20, 2009 at 12:09 AM
There was (maybe still is?) a pub on site at the IBM plant I worked at some years back. Not the best driver of productivity but we had some hilarious team meetings there every week. Maybe becoming IBM ain't all that bad!

So would a ninja throat punch to the exploding guy be more or less messy than a jedi throat punch?

By Anonymous, at April 20, 2009 at 4:49 AM
I am the exploding man.

-steveb

By Anonymous, at April 20, 2009 at 4:50 AM
Spitfire? Meh. Put it out of its misery before it becomes a problem.

I'm as big a fan of alcohol as the next guy (ok, maybe even a bigger fan) and I'm also prone to grabbing a cocktail with coworkers. But after a long day working, the last place I want to go unwind is at a company-owned bar. When I leave work, I want to *LEAVE WORK*. Sheesh, Microsoft is the reason I need a drink at the end of the day in the first place; why seek the cure for the problem in the bowels of the place you caught the disease in the first place?!? :)

By Anonymous, at April 20, 2009 at 2:31 PM
A few of us stopped by The Commons today and Yeah, it seems pretty sweet. Sad that Spitfire won't be a regular pub, but I wonder if there's anything to keep us from bringing our own booze for when we hang out in other parts of the buildings, like a seating area upstairs?

Also, Spitfire doesn't look that special through the window. The other two Commons buildings nearly make you forget it's there. No big loss.

So, question of the day, what do you think:

The Commons: BYOB?

By Anonymous, at April 20, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Respectfully, all of this talk about a pub is very sad. How can Microsoft be so selfish, heartless, and out of touch with the rest of the world?

Newsflash – Here’s what’s happening in the rest of the world. Unemployment close to 10% with no end in sight.. Two hour waits to speak with the bank about loan modifications (refinance not available to laid off workers, this is only choice to avoid foreclosure), 1 hour wait to speak with unemployment office.

Count your blessings, save your pennies, and do what you can to make this world a better place.

MS1400

By Anonymous, at April 20, 2009 at 7:45 PM
If layoffs are coming this week, then the timing of the Commons opening and the announcement mail were extremely insensitive. It also begs to question how many jobs they could have saved in lieu of all the spending.

Woohoo, look at us, we have a cool working atmosphere. All this spending on morale has Null value when you're worried about getting voted off the island, especially when you know that some great people were laid off last time. Or on some teams, it's more like getting pushed off the cliff, Lord of the Flies style.

By Anonymous, at April 20, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Gawd, you people are stupid. Construction on the Commons was obviously scheduled and paid for long before the crash and layoffs. What is Microsoft supposed to do, take it back to the store for a refund?

By Anonymous, at April 20, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Hello 9:01 PM

To answer your question, what can Microsoft do?

- Ethically and fairly manage layoffs in a respectful and appropriate manner.

- Rather than secretive ambiguous and discriminatory layoff decisions - use a fair approach - last in, first out

- Does Microsoft REALLY need to cut staff or is this a smokescreen for something more evil?

- What about LAYING off guest workers? So you'll lay off all the American citizens and GC holders - people who have paid their dues and their taxes.

By Anonymous, at April 20, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Some ideas for @9:01 PM
Perhaps be more sensitive about the timing of announcing the Commons? "Gawd," what would a few freaking days hurt? This isn't a good message: No, we won't talk to employees about the real state of affairs, but we'll talk to the press, and then hold a rah rah session about our new snazzy place that some of you may never see?Even better, plan for down cycles, even in the strong times. Or if they'd listened to some economists (like Paul Krugman) years ago, they'd know the economy was propped up with a house of cards and wouldn't have attempted such a grand master plan?

Another option - get their act straight about Spitfire in the planning stages instead of right before open? I can understand liability concerns, or whatever caused the change of direction, but why didn't those discussions happen first? With their latest redirect, I suspect they've wiped out a good swath of good will that they hoped to achieve.

Or perhaps not hire people who call each other "stupid" in anon forums? Don't know whether you're an employee or not, but I hope not, given your banal choice of words. Stay classy, now.

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 12:11 AM
- Rather than secretive ambiguous and discriminatory layoff decisions - use a fair approach - last in, first outLOL... Gimme a break, why would LIFO make sense? I know plenty of recently hired engineers that have more potential than other senior people, Microsoft should keep the best and brightest - I can't even believe someone would argue that seniority should determine layoffs. You must be really bad at the job you've done for the last decade if you're worried about new hires being able to replace you.

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 2:36 AM
I wonder whether Lisa Brummel will wear pajama pants to the next post-layoff town hall -- her special show of respect for all the people she just fucked over by being (a) incompetent or (b) too spineless to stand up to the incompetents around her.

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 8:09 AM
- Rather than secretive ambiguous and discriminatory layoff decisions - use a fair approach - last in, first out

...

- What about LAYING off guest workers? So you'll lay off all the American citizens and GC holders - people who have paid their dues and their taxes.fair (adj): Arbitrarily defined in any way that I'm certain won't include me.

Pathetic. Just utterly pathetic.

1) Life isn't fair. Business even less so. Sorry if you somehow missed that breaking news.

2) [Number of years your ass has managed to remain parked in the same chair] != [Your current and future value to your employer]

3) Unions have "dues." Businesses have needs. One would think that at some point -- while amassing the vast depth of experience that would make it so unfair to lay you off, ever -- you would have noticed which of the two you work for.

4) Love the way you advocate against "discriminatory" layoff practices, then suggest we solve the problem by simply letting all the foreigners go. Irony not a strong point for you, one presumes.

5) More breaking news: Guest workers pay taxes. Shocking, I know. Almost like they were real people or something.

Other than that, great post! Very insightful. Please let us know if your evil-dar starts tingling again in the future; we will definitely all benefit from your keen grasp of the issues.

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 8:32 AM
I was in the Men's Room in Building 18 last week and I swear I urinated next to Lisa Brummel. No kidding.

Does LisaB pee standing up?!

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 9:47 AM
But after a long day working, the last place I want to go unwind is at a company-owned bar. When I leave work, I want to *LEAVE WORK*.

Exactly!

The whole concept of building a private "mall" on campus for the employees seems a little creepy to me.

It would be interesting to know who in executive management championed such a thing. And are they hanging out there?

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 10:31 AM
'What about LAYING off guest workers? So you'll lay off all the American citizens and GC holders - people who have paid their dues and their taxes.'Whoa... this came from one of the brightest mind in MSFT? hmm.... he must be a hobbit living in a hole or cave.....

FYI.... Guest worker paid their taxes too.....

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Where's the best bathroom on campus to get a blowjob?

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 12:01 PM
layoff should be arrogance based. lot of employees in msft are arrogant, and they "think" they are in the safest place on earth and every other person is a fly on the horizon. I would say that will clear of atleast 80% of the employees. Out of the remaining chose racists, who are talking about GC, H1, Gays and Blacks etc. ... that will clear the whole company, then bill can have a fresh start and atleast build a better company, which has people and not arrogant bunch of lunatics.

ps- I am a troll.

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 1:38 PM
"then bill can have a fresh start and atleast build a better company, which has people and not arrogant bunch of lunatics."you realize that bill is the king of arrogant assholes and that this culture is a direct reflection on him, right?

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Where's the best bathroom on campus to get a blowjob?That I can't help you with, but I know a bunch of people are going to get screwed in Building 86 in the coming few days.

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 5:27 PM
What product teams are in 86? I'm guessing ones related to the teams in 87, am I right? I would think they would hold off until the next release... Would it make sense to lay off a lot of people 6 months before a major release? Wouldn't they wait until after a release (like they seem to be doing with COSD)?

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 10:00 PM
86 is COSD

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Microsoft india
200 in MS IT India
1400 in MS IDC

By Anonymous, at April 21, 2009 at 11:10 PM
86 is COSDAh, thanks for clearing that up...

By Anonymous, at April 22, 2009 at 1:22 AM
Gawd, you people are stupid. Construction on the Commons was obviously scheduled and paid for long before the crash and layoffs. What is Microsoft supposed to do, take it back to the store for a refund?If that's the case, that this on-campus mall was planned and budgeted long before the economic crash, it points to Microsoft's extreme lack of agility and inertia. Flexibility in light of changing demands... not exactly one of Microsoft's strong points.

By Anonymous, at April 22, 2009 at 4:26 AM
Back to the alcohol thing.... Everyone knows that LCA was the big driver behind the change. It is a lot less exposure for the company when you have 1-off events that serve to employees than when you serve everyday. It increases the likelihood of an employee plowing into a family of 4 and the subsequent (high cash $$$ settlement) suit that MS endorses the behavior (since they built a pub on campus).
$$$Cha-ching$$$$

By Anonymous, at April 22, 2009 at 11:45 AM
What is the over/under date for when LCA headcount trump R&D headcount? I bet the unders get paid.

By Anonymous, at April 22, 2009 at 12:33 PM
200 in MS IT India
1400 in MS IDC

The total number of people in MS IDC is less than 1400, so I'd doubt that number.

By Anonymous, at April 22, 2009 at 1:30 PM
>>'What about LAYING off guest workers? So you'll lay off all the American citizens and GC holders - people who have paid their dues and their taxes.'Whoa... this came from one of the brightest mind in MSFT? hmm.... he must be a hobbit living in a hole or cave.....

To the stupid fool who made the comment .. guest workers pay their taxes and in case they get canned they end up losing all the 401 K investments...

By Anonymous, at April 22, 2009 at 2:57 PM
To the stupid fool who made the comment .. guest workers pay their taxes and in case they get canned they end up losing all the 401 K investments...
You are a moron. Why would anyone lose *all* their 401k investments?

You can withdraw your 401k money anytime, even after you quit, by paying the taxes on it, and some penalty.

By Anonymous, at April 22, 2009 at 3:38 PM
@2:57 PM: Have you read the whole threads? R u smoking somethin'?

The comment i made was 'bout that stupid fool who suggested that 'brightest' idea @11:32 PM. You stupid fool.........

From the Evil H1B troll.......

By Anonymous, at April 22, 2009 at 4:17 PM
typical microsoft ivory tower thinkers; you bunch of fucking idiots continue to miss the big picture and the bigger problem -

Lisab pees standing up!!

Fuck - wake up, you bunch of assholes! No wonder the rest of the Tech Sector is laughing at you fuckers!

By Anonymous, at April 22, 2009 at 7:18 PM
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By Anonymous, at April 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM
If we can't get alcohol can't we get whores instead? There are barely a couple of blowjob worthy chicks in my building anyway. :-/

By Anonymous, at April 23, 2009 at 8:41 PM
There are barely a couple of blowjob worthy chicks in my building anyway. :-/
Uh...are there here on H1-B visas? Maybe that could soften the hard line some have been taking on the issue.

By Anonymous, at April 24, 2009 at 6:43 AM
FACT: Import of foreign sex workers has risen over 17% in the past 12 months -- this in the midst of the worst economy since the Great Depression. No other industrialized nation in the world imports prostitutes at a such a high rate while many of its own citizens are having trouble finding customers.

FACT: Prostitutes over the age of 40 are 7 times more likely to be dismissed by their employers than those 25 or under. When the MOST experienced workers in a field are being let go, even as their replacements are being imported from offshore, what does this tell you?

FACT: The so-called "Asian preference" among American johns is a MYTH. Studies have found NO difference in the rate of orgasm or overall satisfaction among clients of American vs. foreign (including all Asian) sex workers. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

American prostitutes aren't looking for a handout. All they want is a fair chance to compete on a level playing field. To those of you claim to patronize foreign prostitutes because you find them more "exotic" or "submissive," what are your REAL motives? Rest assured, the American people are no longer fooled by your lies!

If you still believe in having AMERICAN sex with AMERICAN whores, it's time to stand up and say so, publicly and proudly! Write to your congressperson or Senator and demand that he or she do the same! The -job you save may be your own!

By Anonymous, at April 24, 2009 at 8:48 AM
Tom Yarman used to have sex with some of his employees (guys) over in 28.

He got removed from office and now runs the WTR LAB.

By Anonymous, at April 26, 2009 at 3:37 AM
Unfortunately, I have some terrible news... if, by "the Toolbox" you meant "The Workshop", it's been closed for about a year. Last I looked it was a building site :(

Never been in the Mustard Seed - any good??

Spitfire is kinda OK. Would have been fantastic to have an on-site bar for post-work shenanigans, the way this has been handled is utterly diabolical. If i made such a pigs ear of a project, I'd hang myself in shame.

By Anonymous, at April 26, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Tom Yaran wasn't he buds with the GDR weenie?

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