Light fuse - New comment on Microsoft Layoffs - Cinco de Fire-O.
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Fellow laid off Microsoft workers over 50 - thought this might be helpful.
The Supposed Immigrant Talent
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/ProgrammersGuild/files/ Supposed- immigrant-talent.txt
We keep seeing several articles, by people like Vivek Wadhwa, talking about the innovative qualities of immigrants or guest workers coming here from other countries and pointing to YAHOO and GOOGLE as the perfect examples. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is a fallacy.
Yahoo was started by David Filo born in Wisconsin, educated at Stanford and Jerry Yang, born in Taipei, raised in San Jose since age 8, educated in the USA at Stanford.
Google was started by Larry Page, born in Michigan, educated at Stanford and Sergey Brin, born in Moscow, raised in the USA since age 6, post graduate work at Stanford.
So what we see is that they were not educated at some diploma factory in India, China or Russia, instead they received their education here in the United States; since elementary school even. They studied Computer Science or Math or Electrical Engineering in US colleges and Stanford is the common factor...
Do we see a pattern here? All these technology companies were founded by persons born and educated or raised and educated here in the United States; not India, not mainland China, not Russia.
Just because they hired a bunch of kids from India in order to replace their aging work force and suppress wages in the late 90's and early in this decade, doesn't mean squat....
Now India pumps out Engineers ...as fast as India's unsustainable population explosion but does that make them more innovative, more intelligent, more motivated? Hardly, just more populous.
As for actual studies, one was reported in 1996 that shows that of 250 randomly sampled patents registered between 1988 and 1994, 48 were issued to foreign born inventors; however these inventors were educated in the United States. Of the sample shown, most immigrated from Europe and the Far East (China, Korea); 3 from India.
Let's see now Mr. Wadhwa, who are the most innovative of this planet's population?
Yes, immigrants can be or are highly motivated innovators, but so are citizens of the United States.
This country created the technology wave and people like yourselves with your charged rhetoric have simply been riding it.
When is the last time you heard of a citizen of the United States stealing industrial secrets from China or India? NEVER! Yet there are many instances of this occurring here in the US by foreign nationals.
Your paper on immigrant entrepreneurs failed to ask several other pertinent questions:
In what country were you raised the majority of your life? In what country did you get the majority of your education?In what country did you get your advance degree?
These are relevant questions and the absence of them in your paper is indicative of a seriously flawed and biased study meant to skew our perception rather than enlighten it.
I agree on the need for this country to make room for the best and the brightest, but I also believe that the rest of the world needs them as well and if we are to create and perpetuate economic, social and political equality around the world you can't be creating inequality here in the most free and equal of countries on the planet, the United States.
Allowing international corporate and industrial conglomerates to shift working populations and economic disparity around the world for the purpose of profit without consideration of the consequence is unreasonable, unhealthy and irresponsible.
Using racist rhetoric, such as you have in the past, to make your skewed point is just as irresponsible. Are you a mouth-piece for opportunity or for corporate imperialism?
What I am is a fifty(50) year old software engineer with twenty-five( 25) years progressive experience in the science of Information Technology that has been ejected from American labor force by cheap, under-educated, youthful labor; brought here solely for the purpose of breaking the economic back of middle class Americans.
The non-immigrant guest worker program in this country is seriously flawed and needs to be fixed; period.
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