Yer all a bunch of kitties - New comment on Microsoft Layoffs - Cinco de Fire-O.
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"Actually, a lot of people that are left are so wrapped up in their jobs that they're living inside a vacumn. They think about it and then get along with what they were doing. That's the problem. If they really cared, there would be an uprising. I heard some mention that they would have taken a pay cut if given the chance. But nobody has organized any efforts to do that. It's just human nature, sadly."
It is definitely human nature to be scared, but I have never seen a bigger bunch of pussies than software engineers, foreign (especially the foreign ones who think they are so courageous to have come here but are infact running away from something that plagued them at home, in their home country), or domestic.
Unionizing software engineers can and ought to happen, but since the whole lot of them do not have the cojones to organize and act as a united front, it will not happen until the situation is a lot more dire than what it is now.
What they'd rather do is play foosball, get drunk, and be reactivists instead of activists...
That's what is at the heart of a software engineer.
(Kitties!)
posted by Who da'Punk at
5/12/2009 10:21:00 PM
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Actually, no. Most software engineers are deeply invested in this myth that they are each endowed with superhuman intelligence, which is undermined by any suggestion that they might have common interests with their colleagues. They tend to be radical individualists who think anything that involves teamwork is a gateway drug to communism.
Good point about the foreign engineers' delusional belief in their courage. they came here to get rich and prove themselves superior to Americans. At least that's what they tell themselves.
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Anonymous, at May 13, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Unionizing software engineers can and ought to happen, but since the whole lot of them do not have the cojones to organize and act as a united front, it will not happen until the situation is a lot more dire than what it is now.Unionizing software engineers is a good way of stifling innovation and slowing down our development "ecosystems". Any freedoms we have in our workplace will go away.
What is next? Software engineers obtaining a license to write code?
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Anonymous, at May 13, 2009 at 11:17 PM
RE: "What is next? Software engineers obtaining a license to write code?"
Why not?
"Real" engineers have to get a license to practice engineering for the public. Accountants, lawyers, doctors, etc. must also be licensed before providing services to the public.
Are software engineers afraid of a little accountability? If software engineers want to have the world run on software, they have a responsibility to provide some accountability for their work. You can't go around telling everyone how big your throbbing brain is while at the same time run from any responsibility for when the software doesn't work like it's supposed to. What happened? Throbbing brain fart?
Would you accept that sort of evasion from your doctor? Your lawyer? The pilot of your next airline flight? Your accountant? Your plumber? Your garbage-collector?
Heck no!
But when there's a software problem, watch the excuses fly and the blame-evasion go into overdrive!
The bravado is kinda humorous and kinda sad at the same time.
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Anonymous, at May 16, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Well. You sort of need a license now - a CS degree. Would be kind of hard to be a dev without a CS degree.
Unions are not all bad. Software engineering union would be good.
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Anonymous, at May 18, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Unions at Microsoft would be a very bad thing. Currently we are paid well and treated fairly. I have been a union member in the past and they result in lower take home pay and you lose alot of the benifits without much choice. A union would destroy the culture that Microsoft was built around.
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Anonymous, at May 20, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Licensing Software Engineers?
Great idea!
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Anonymous, at May 21, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Why would a union at Msft be a bad thing?
This is not a police union! The union would not be here to protect the felon cops who assault civilians or molest teenagers.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009180826_spdappeal06m.html
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Anonymous, at May 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM
This is not a police union! The union would not be here to protect the felon cops who assault civilians or molest teenagers.Are you a complete moron, or just someone who pulls arguments out of your backside because you can't think of anything intelligent to say on topic? You're proof why a union may be a bad thing at MS, because it might end up protecting fools like you from getting canned.
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Anonymous, at May 25, 2009 at 1:31 AM
You little anti-union moron. So you are resorting to your backside since you have no point to make.
If a fool like you is working at MS, then we all know exactly why the company going to hell.
May be a union can drum out morons like you.
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Anonymous, at May 27, 2009 at 6:27 PM
So you guy's want a union for engineers kinda like GM and Chrysler???
Customer
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Anonymous, at May 27, 2009 at 7:44 PM
There are many reasons why GM and Chrysler failed.
Bad management to start with.
How about the teacher union for UW CS profs???
They are productive, best of the best, and extremely well paid.
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Anonymous, at May 27, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Licensing the software engineer is a nice idea. It is really make huge expectations in the market. This is useful for everyone to obtain some information.
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